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Title: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: cybernut on 17 January, 2023, 07:03:57 AM
Having recently developed various websites using a responsive web editor, my conclusion is that CSS'd web pages aren't that much different from older table based ones, at least where devices with larger displays are concerned, e.g desktops/towers, laptops, larger tablet systems.
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: A.Jenery on 20 January, 2023, 11:42:55 AM
Table based web pages wouldn't be responsive, although I'm sure you took that into consideration...
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: ATH019 on 20 January, 2023, 11:56:44 AM
Table based web pages wouldn't be responsive, although I'm sure you took that into consideration...
The o.p cybernut did qualify with 'at least where devices with larger displays are concerned, e.g ...'  Depending on the CSS formatting, I tend to agree that there might not be much difference visually between how a table based page looks and how a CSSd one does.


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Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: blag-it Admin on 21 January, 2023, 10:48:41 AM
This is a difficult one to call.  Where larger screens or displays are concerned it really makes little difference if web pages are responsive or not, so leaving that factor aside I also tend to agree with the topic starter.  A css file or inline style can dictate say a three column x five row page, and you can achieve the same thing with a table.


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Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: McGaskil on 22 January, 2023, 11:36:50 AM
I think you can achieve more formatting options with css, unless you have nested tables or something like you could have with table bsed pages.
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: cybernut on 22 January, 2023, 11:42:51 AM
Table based web pages wouldn't be responsive, although I'm sure you took that into consideration...
That's the only area where css is better imho, but for larger screened devices I honestly can't tell the difference visully.
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: cybernut on 22 January, 2023, 11:44:55 AM
Table based web pages wouldn't be responsive, although I'm sure you took that into consideration...
The o.p cybernut did qualify with 'at least where devices with larger displays are concerned, e.g ...'  Depending on the CSS formatting, I tend to agree that there might not be much difference visually between how a table based page looks and how a CSSd one does.


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Thanks :)  That's exactly why I made that qualifier.
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: cybernut on 22 January, 2023, 11:48:48 AM
I think you can achieve more formatting options with css, unless you have nested tables or something like you could have with table bsed pages.
Well I remember like it was yesterday, having say a table within a cell of a table that was itself in the main table using an early incarnation of Dreamweaver.  There was little formatting options you couldn't do with this technique.
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: McGaskil on 25 January, 2023, 11:14:18 AM
I think you can achieve more formatting options with css, unless you have nested tables or something like you could have with table bsed pages.
Well I remember like it was yesterday, having say a table within a cell of a table that was itself in the main table using an early incarnation of Dreamweaver.  There was little formatting options you couldn't do with this technique.
Yeah there's some truth to this, but then you'll also remember that having nested tables resulted in terrible, over bloated html code.  Using CSS or inline styles reduces all of that and makes a html page easier to read/follow.
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: cybernut on 26 January, 2023, 09:23:37 AM
I think you can achieve more formatting options with css, unless you have nested tables or something like you could have with table bsed pages.
Well I remember like it was yesterday, having say a table within a cell of a table that was itself in the main table using an early incarnation of Dreamweaver.  There was little formatting options you couldn't do with this technique.
Yeah there's some truth to this, but then you'll also remember that having nested tables resulted in terrible, over bloated html code.  Using CSS or inline styles reduces all of that and makes a html page easier to read/follow.
Ok I can accept that, but the point I'm making is, that whenever I look at some of my home pages, they don't look CSSd even though they are - they look just like table-based pages of yesteryear.
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: blag-it Admin on 30 January, 2023, 12:01:27 PM
Yes I can see how that can happen, and so visitors might think they're not up to date...  I can only suggest to search for example pages/sites to see how they differ in terms of look and feel.


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Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: ATH019 on 01 February, 2023, 07:42:57 AM
Most Web 2.0 pages which accounts to about 70-75% of all web pages, and nearly all Web 3.0 pages tend to be full-width or near full-width pages, especially for cms/dbs driven sites.  Visitors will therefore almost certainly know for certain that they are CSSd and not table-based pages/sites.


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Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: cybernut on 07 February, 2023, 01:06:30 AM
Most Web 2.0 pages which accounts to about 70-75% of all web pages, and nearly all Web 3.0 pages tend to be full-width or near full-width pages, especially for cms/dbs driven sites.  Visitors will therefore almost certainly know for certain that they are CSSd and not table-based pages/sites.


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But what about websites that aren't full-width which is still a fair number.  Also many cssd pages are not database driven.  They look like table based pages to me imho.
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: and04 on 14 February, 2023, 07:58:34 AM
Most Web 2.0 pages which accounts to about 70-75% of all web pages, and nearly all Web 3.0 pages tend to be full-width or near full-width pages, especially for cms/dbs driven sites.  Visitors will therefore almost certainly know for certain that they are CSSd and not table-based pages/sites.


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But what about websites that aren't full-width which is still a fair number.  Also many cssd pages are not database driven.  They look like table based pages to me imho.
I totally agree with this!  There's little difference visually between non database driven sites or pages that aren't full-width but are still CSS'd and earlier table based pages.
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: a.flynn on 24 March, 2023, 09:06:19 AM
Yes I can see how that can happen, and so visitors might think they're not up to date...  I can only suggest to search for example pages/sites to see how they differ in terms of look and feel.


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You can always have social media icons on the page if you have social media accounts to make them look up to date.
Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: blag-it Admin on 26 March, 2023, 03:50:14 AM
Yes I can see how that can happen, and so visitors might think they're not up to date...  I can only suggest to search for example pages/sites to see how they differ in terms of look and feel.


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You can always have social media icons on the page if you have social media accounts to make them look up to date.
Yes, this would certainly help.  Well pointed out!


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Title: Re: Is there any real difference between CSS based web pages and table based ones?
Post by: ATH019 on 17 May, 2023, 12:15:38 PM
Yes I can see how that can happen, and so visitors might think they're not up to date...  I can only suggest to search for example pages/sites to see how they differ in terms of look and feel.


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You can always have social media icons on the page if you have social media accounts to make them look up to date.
Yes, this is a good idea!



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